tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3628231292297278599.post1868572826610787034..comments2023-08-21T02:20:26.757+12:00Comments on It really is upside down: Fruit and nutsvethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13376500106064052491noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3628231292297278599.post-6240830391684570162009-11-04T10:24:12.377+13:002009-11-04T10:24:12.377+13:00S: I'm not sure about the details of the Pact ...S: I'm not sure about the details of the Pact - I don't entirely trust the Herald on that subject. Although I suspect it's as you say, I don't <em>know</em> if it hasn't been misrepresented somehow.<br /><br />James, thanks for looking in. You're probably right about the ineffectiveness of publicity, but I still think it's a mistake to say (or to let Tamaki get away with the claim) that there's no difference between churches.vethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13376500106064052491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3628231292297278599.post-82862179897775964992009-11-02T11:28:39.333+13:002009-11-02T11:28:39.333+13:00Howdy,
I think you're right about a lot of th...Howdy,<br /><br />I think you're right about a lot of this. Editing the Herald is basically a media blog, which means I can't just write about how crazy Destiny is without going rather out of scope.<br /><br />Personally, as I said in my second post on the matter, I think Tamaki and his church are bad enough that the media doesn't have to go rabid to make them look bad. If our purpose is discourage this kind of movement, surely the old line about the 'oxygen of publicity' is on the money here. I suspect not a single one of the '700 sons' read or watched any of the coverage and thought, "Oh, they're right, this is all a bit silly."Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12661495023149576052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3628231292297278599.post-82688092351641424012009-11-02T11:03:03.945+13:002009-11-02T11:03:03.945+13:00iirc his flock is also supposed to defend Bishop f...iirc his flock is also supposed to defend Bishop from the ramifications of his mistakes. <br /><br />Now that's an indication of a closed mind. <br /><br />-SAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3628231292297278599.post-13064960302450761002009-11-02T08:14:09.233+13:002009-11-02T08:14:09.233+13:00Yes, but Islam doesn't claim to be Christianit...Yes, but Islam doesn't claim to be Christianity - it's a whole different thing. And while you can't debate with Mohammed, Muslims can (and do) argue endlessly with one another.<br /><br />I know a lot of Christians get quite worked up about the uniqueness of their church and the inspiration of their own interpretation, but there's a difference (I think) between individual church members getting carried away, and the head of a whole order making that claim and - and this is the important part - effectively foreclosing all debate on the subject.<br /><br />As practised by "real" churches, theology is a peer-reviewed discipline. As I mentioned, you can have all the prophetic insights you like, but in the end you have to be able to defend your conclusions, using scripture, from those who use the same scripture to dispute them. Tamaki has short-circuited that process - his flock <em>can't</em> debate with him - it's literally forbidden.vethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13376500106064052491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3628231292297278599.post-48772619702569616342009-10-30T22:42:03.852+13:002009-10-30T22:42:03.852+13:00I'm not sure that argument washes. Apart from ...I'm not sure that argument washes. Apart from the fact that various (mostly Protestant) Christian churches claim that the Bible is literally God's 'word' and that THEY are the only ones who interpret this meassage correctly, there is also the small matter of the Islamic faith, which is based on Mohammed's directly taking God's dictation. Yes, Mohammed is considered to be a prophet and not a preacher but most people would consider Islam a church and not a cult.Jantarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16175442324153369421noreply@blogger.com